Ep. 12 | Personal Encounters on Lake Lanier, Part II

 On the this episode of Spirits Uncorked, we return with Part 2 of Personal Encounters on Lake Lanier. This time, we dive into the heart-pounding story of Alyse, who, at just 4 years old, faced a terrifying accident on the lake—and was saved by a mysterious woman in blue. What begins as a childhood memory unfolds into a chilling tale filled with twists and turns that will leave you with goose bumps. Tune in for the shocks, the mysteries, and the haunting legacy of Lake Lanier.
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Ep. 12 Personal Encounters on Lake Lanier, Part II

Elizabeth: [00:00:00] Imagine, a childhood memory so intense, so mysterious, it leaves an indelible mark, not just in memory, but on your skin. Picture being just four years old, caught in a terrifying accident on the vast waters of Lake Lanier. In the chaos, a woman in a blue dress appears, saving your life, only to vanish without a trace.

The scar on your forehead, a constant reminder of the day when reality blurred with something far beyond explanation. In this episode of Spirits Uncorked, Elise shares the thrilling, true story of her encounter with the mysterious woman in blue. Uncork a bottle with us for part two of firsthand encounters on Lake Lanier and continue to get to the bottom of the Lake Lanier mystery.

Dive in with [00:01:00] us. Welcome to Spirits Uncorked. Today, Erica and I continue to hear firsthand accounts from locals who grew up on Lake Lanier. Last week, we heard from Zach and Tina. This week, we are diving right in with our conversation with Alyse, who has a fascinating true story that kept Erica and I on the edge of our seat.

You don't want to miss this one. 

Elizabeth: Hi.

Alyse: How are you? I'm good. How are y'all?

Elizabeth: Good. I'm Elizabeth and this is my sister, Erica. 

Alyse: Hi. 

Erica: I gotta pour some wine. Yeah. Do you have a glass of wine? 

Alyse: I do. So I picked up a bottle of Meiomi, which is my favorite Pinot Noir. Um, I thought I was going to get a cab, but I just decided on a Pinot Noir.

Elizabeth: Very nice. Very nice. So do you want to just like Introduce yourself. 

Alyse: I'm Elise. Um, I currently live in South Carolina, but I grew up in [00:02:00] Roswell or as locals call it Roswell. I lived there for 24 years before moving to the upstate. I grew up on Lake Lanier. We used to go there every weekend until I was about eight years old.

And then we started going to Lake Hartwell. So I have a lot of creepy experiences, but I would say the one with the scar on my forehead takes the cake. Can you see it?

Erica:  Oh my gosh. 
Alyse: You see it?
Erica: I do. Oh my gosh. Okay.

Alyse: Yeah. So I work in sales. I have six kids and I'm happily married. Um, I have not been back.

Elizabeth: Hold on. You said you have six kids? 

Alyse: Yes. Yes, I do.
Erica: How old are you?

Alyse: I'm 34

Erica: Um, you look like you're in your 20s. Yeah. What? I'm 34 also.
Alyse: I'm blushing.
Erica: But oh my gosh, six kids?

Erica: Good for you. 

Elizabeth: God bless you.
Erica: I have a dog and a cat. [00:03:00]

Alyse: That's awesome. I love it. 

Elizabeth: I've got two boys and they're, they're probably equal to six.

Alyse: 100%. I have all girls. So I would say that boys, two boys is the equivalent of six  

Erica:but I kind of love that. A girl house. That's really cool. 

Alyse: Thank you. 

Elizabeth: So she recently went pretty viral on TikTok, because she put out a video about her story at Lake Lanier that happened when she was four years old. So I already know the story, because I watched somebody tagged me in it.

Somebody tagged me in the video, talk to her. And so I was like, Ooh, I watched the video. And I was like, Oh, my gosh, it's amazing. So would you mind sharing your story? And Erica has never heard it. She didn't watch the video or anything. 

Alyse: Like I said, I grew up on the lake. So we would go there all the time. It was the week after.

So you have to rewind 30 years, right? It was the week after my fourth birthday. We went to the lake. It was my dad and his friend [00:04:00] Jay. So just the three of us, um, my dad had standup jet skis. So his friend and him were taking turns riding the standup jet skis. And when my dad came back from riding, his friend was watching me.

I jumped on the back of the white jet ski and was just playing around, kicking my feet, splashing in the water. When his friend turned on the jet ski. So this is before bilge pumps on standup jet skis. 

Alyse: The reason he turned it on was to get the water out of it. So it wouldn't sink. Okay. Ever. It scared me. I was a little kid.

I was only four years old. as an adult, that would not scare me, but as a child, it terrified me. I flipped around within like a millisecond. My dad says, and I grabbed the handlebars. I didn't just grab the handlebars. Unfortunately, I grabbed the throttle. And so before they could yank me off of the ski, I turned the handlebars like this and I went flying because I, my hand locked, I'll never forget [00:05:00] that feeling in my hand, I've never gripped something so hard in my life, but I was, it was pure terror. I was so scared by the sound of the engine that I just, my hands just froze, like in a complete, like fight or flight moment, they were locked and there was nothing. And I remember my like, butt was just kept hitting the bottom of the jet ski cause I was so light. I was about 30 pounds. I was really small for a four year old.

Um, so I'm going and I'm just going straight and I can see everything, the trees are flying by as fast as possible next to me and Lake Lanier is a super wooded area as you all know, there's trees everywhere.  

Erica: Your dad was probably freaking out. Yeah, 

Alyse: I can't hear my dad at all throughout this entire experience.

Um, but I know that he was screaming and swimming and telling me to hit the red button. There was not a kill switch on this type of jet ski. It was made in the 80s. So there wasn't that lanyard that most people have nowadays. Long story short, I'm flying, the trees are flying, I feel the wind and I'm just like so at peace, even though I'm [00:06:00] terrified because it's kind of fun to ride a jet ski.

All: Yeah. 

Alyse: And I look over to my left and I'm getting chills thinking about it, but I look over to my left and there is a woman and she is sitting on her knees and she has the most beautiful blonde flowy hair. It's so Almost to her waist and she has on this gorgeous, like it's a T almost aquamarine teal kind of knit top, something like, like crocheted almost.

And she, she looks me in my eyes and she has these beautiful, they're almost like greenish bluish. They're. They're not brown. My eyes are brown. They're not brown. And my mind still to this day, 30 years later, they're green eyes, but I can't confirm or deny that it's been a long time. Yeah. She says to me, this may hurt a little bit, or this might hurt a little bit, but everything will be okay.

And I said, what might hurt? And I, cause I was a little kid and I look back straight and I hit the rock. Um, there's like a rock embankment. I hit the rock embankment. This is where I [00:07:00] cognitively do not remember anything, but I can tell you what. Was told by witnesses and what I said in the days after that, I flew up, I hit a tree, um, where they had cut off a branch and the branch like went in kind of like a circle into my head.

Erica: Oh my gosh. 

Alyse: There was about 20 witnesses. Cause it was at a campground. They said, I, after I hit the tree, I was suspended in the air like this. And then I fell face first into the water. So like I went backwards in the air into the water. Wow. I remember hitting the water and thinking like I couldn't breathe because it was such a, there was so much force behind it.

Erica: Right. 

Alyse: I was looking in the water, looking all around and I could see the blood like from my head mixing with the water. And my four year old mind, I had just gotten back from the beach and I was really concerned about like a shark, which obviously as an adult, I would never be concerned about that, but I was worried about that.

And I remember thinking, wow, like that looks really pretty because blood mixed with water in my four year old mind looks really [00:08:00] pretty. And then, um, no sooner, I was about to take a breath. Because I could finally had kind of gained a little bit of ability.

Erica: You got the wind knocked out of you and now you're ok.

Alyse: Yeah. And, um, I felt my life jacket get really tight and then I was yanked up and this man yanked me up and he grabbed me. And right then, as he was grabbing me, that just, I could feel the blood like coming into my eyes and. It was really hot and it was everywhere. Um, and he was sobbing like uncontrollably sobbing while he, I mean, he just witnessed this absolutely terrifying thing.

Um, and he's holding me and he said, and I said to him, is my nose bleeding? And he said, yes, baby, everything's bleeding. Like, shh, shh. Like you're ok, he kept screaming like she's alive. The baby's alive. The baby's alive. He's getting up the wrong embankment. Um, and he's starting to slip with me in his hands and a

gentleman who lived in the [00:09:00] area who just happened to be passing by, like saw this commotion and saw him running and grabs. The back of him and yanks him up there and then long, that's a lot of stuff going on. Oh my gosh. Yeah. So the craziest part is I had no concussion. I had no broken bones. I, yeah, there was nothing wrong with my skull.

You could see my skull though. You could, you could physically see it. My mom says that when she got to the hospital, cause she was not with us, it was a big circle like this. And it was just gaping and you could see my entire skull. 

Erica: Um, and that's terrifying. 

Alyse: I, yeah. And I had told her and this, this part I don't remember, but I mean, I told her that when I hit the tree, the lady in the blue dress, that's what I called her.

The lady in the blue dress grabbed me by my arm and my leg and threw me over her shoulder as she flew away. And that's the reason I got back in the water. 

Erica: Oh, wow. [00:10:00] Yeah. So, 

Elizabeth: we have some follow up questions. 

Erica: I mean, first of all, that's got to be terrifying for your parents, but I mean, you're telling your mom these stories, you don't really remember.

And you're just telling her like this initial thing, like was your mom freaked out? Like what is her reaction to like the things that you were saying? 

Alyse: Yeah, so my mom has always believed in like spirits and angels and everything like that. So she just said whoever that was, Regardless of they were a ghost or if they were an angel that like, I was protected.

And for some reason she didn't know why, but I was, and I've kept that, I've carried that with me. I mean, I see this every day, like there's no way around it, but she was, she was like, she was freaked out by it. I told her the entire story. Like when I got, I was fine. I didn't have any sort of memory loss when I got to the hospital because the paramedics came there and they were [00:11:00] like, She looks fine.

I mean, I was talking, I wanted to get up. No one would let me get up. I remember being incredibly frustrated. A four year old has a lot of energy. I had a ton of energy as a child. So having to like lay, they just told me like lay down in this bed of this truck until the paramedics got there. I was so annoyed.

I remember just being like, can I get up now? And they'd be like, Oh, don't get up. And I, everyone, all the adults around me were terrified by what. Yeah. Yeah. Because not only did I hit the tree and they all saw that I flew backwards in the air and there was nothing. It's like, my dad says it looked like I was on a string and kind of just went like this and then fell.

The doctors at the hospital had pulled my mom out of the room, my mom and my dad out of the room and said, like, after all the tests came back and they said, she shouldn't be alive. Like, there's no way that she should have hit a tree with that much force and be alive. Like, this is a miracle. We have no idea

Erica: I mean, how fast were you going? You said your hand, like, locked, probably holding the 

Alyse: Yeah. 

Erica: [00:12:00] Like, throttle or whatever. So you're just flying. 

Elizabeth: When did somebody point out to you, or did anyone point out to you, like there's this legend about a woman in blue at the lake? 

Alyse: So that, I learned about that about a few months ago, which is crazy.

My mom actually was the one who said, Alyse, did you, have you heard about this lady in blue at the lake? I, I was like, what are you talking about? My lake, my, like where I, where I was. 

Elizabeth: And you had never heard that before?

Alyse: No, I had never heard it. Um, and the story has never changed. It's been the same since I was four.

I mean, she's, I can, I can see her in my mind so clear. I could draw you a picture. The crochet dress that she was wearing. It's absolutely gorgeous. I mean, it's just this, it looks like something that you would wear not in this time period. And that's what I always told my mom as I got older and could still remember everything.

I still can remember it. Like, it doesn't look like she's from, [00:13:00] you know, our, our time. She's not from the 90s. I saw all these TikToks and I was like, Oh my gosh, I wonder if that is it  

Elizabeth: That is so crazy because Erica and I, we did a whole episode on the lady of the lake. And so we know that there was two women who died, but we know that only one is seen because she's wearing a blue dress and that's Delia May.

But I'm not sure that I've ever seen a photograph of her. So I would be, I would be interested in trying to find a photograph of her. It was reported that she was wearing a blue dress. That night, when she died. 

Elizabeth: Yeah, they found Susie Roberts. I've seen a picture of her, the other woman who died. 

Erica: So I just looked her up.

Thank you. While you were talking because now, I was thinking that I was like, we actually have never talked about what she looked like necessarily. Okay. So the only pictures I'm finding are black and white, but she has long blonde hair. [00:14:00] Um, I can't tell. Does that make you freak out a little bit? 

Alyse: Yeah, it actually like I have goosebumps.

That freaks me out. 

Erica: I can't tell what color eyes she has, but I'm sure we could. Okay. This is going to be 

Elizabeth: not. Oh yeah. That's not very good. But yeah, she's got long, light colored hair. 

Alyse: Yeah, her hair was like, it was almost Barbie blonde. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah. 

Elizabeth: I don't know if you listened to that episode of our podcast that we did, but because we talked about, I think it was the second episode.

Um, we talked about how they died and that, and then we came up with theories why she's the only one who is seen and not her friend. And the only thing that we can come up with is that she took decades to be properly identified. Actually, no, not even. She was never properly identified. She was identified by default because they found the other woman.

So they assumed like that these other remains were her. They never officially identified [00:15:00] her to this day. That was our theory. And then the other thing is, okay, let me ask you this. People say when they see her that she doesn't have hands. Did, did she have hands? 

Erica: Do you even remember registering? 

Alyse: She had hands. 

Elizabeth: She had hands. I mean, okay. She was like 

Elizabeth: this. So just her, just her physical body does, does not have hands. Erica and I, we went to the area where she died with a spirit box and we asked her if she was at peace now and if she had her hands. Mm-Hmm. . And I think her reply was. It was something like perfect universe or something.

Yeah. 

Erica: She like, she's happy. She's comfortable. Right. 

Elizabeth: So we felt like that was her saying, like, she's complete and at peace, but you know, there's, Oh, that's amazing. I can't believe that. That's cool that she was looking out for you.

Elizabeth: You want to hear something else about her? She had an infant daughter when she died.[00:16:00]

Erica: A daughter. 

Erica: Maybe there's like a maternal instinct there. Like, I mean, I think most women do have that anyway, but I mean, 

Elizabeth: she was just a baby. She only had one daughter and there's some things there. 

Erica: Well, that's a really good story. Gosh. Okay. So you went to Lake Lanier like every summer.

Yeah. Have you heard like some other stories? Like, I mean, you have to have friends who were there and stuff, right? 

Alyse: Yeah. I mean, yeah. So we would go camping when I was really young, we would go camping every weekend, pretty much at least twice a month we would go camping. Um, and I was always freaked out by the lake, but I couldn't really ever put it my like finger on it.

What freaked me out even as a little kid. 

Elizabeth: So some people say, I never suspected anything. [00:17:00] And then some people are like, Oh yeah, I always had a weird vibe. So there's a quite a bit as quite a spectrum from locals. I, so I just think it's interesting where people fall into the spectrum. So have you heard about Oscarville and when did you hear about it?

And how did you feel about it after you had learned it? 

Alyse: Yeah, I was a teenager when I found out what had actually happened. 

Elizabeth: Did you learn at school or?  

Alyse: No, they don't talk about that at school. Absolutely not. No, I learned because one of my friends, um, her ancestors, like her Great grandparents lived in Oscarville.

And I was saying about how we were going to go, my friend had a houseboat. And so we would go up there on the weekends and go to her houseboat on Lake Lanier, so cool, which it was cool. But also again, I was so creeped out that they were like, everyone in my family would be like, why won't you get in the water?

And I'm like, I don't, there's something here. When I heard about Oscarville and I was, like I said, I was in high school, I was about 14 [00:18:00] or 15 and I never swam in the lake again. Um, all of high school until I graduated, I was 18. I could drive a car and we went back and I got in and then I saw something under the water that looked like a hand and I got out and I said, I'm not done.

I'm done.

Elizabeth: That's  common too. That's a common thing that I hear

Erica: Well, I mean, I think it's kind of, a good time for us to even, like, touch on this. I mean, we talked about Oscarville in our very first episode. Before we knew, like, how angry it made people to talk about local culture. And so it's, it's become a pretty serious issue.

We don't have to get into all of that. But I mean, we're talking about historical facts here. We're not, we're not expanding on any  

Elizabeth: We do talk about ghost stories, but like, actually, those come from historical facts, and 

Erica: But everything is documented. Beth has cited every single thing that we've talked about, [00:19:00] like her sources, and where we're getting this information, and I just had no idea that we would be facing, um, so many crazy comments, and like local business owners, and I mean, it's insane.

The backlash just from this was a place that was here before. We're not saying that they washed the city out. We're not coming up with like the conspiracies. She's done actual videos of the actual timelines. 

Elizabeth: So I feel like it would go a long way. And you can tell me what is going to the lake and just sort of Maybe you believe in this thing, maybe you don't, but sort of like clearing the air and like whatever injustices happen there, just recognize that it happened, you know, and like move forward.

I think that would go a long way. And, but people are so resistant to that kind of thing. I don't know. What do you think? What would it take you, [00:20:00] what would it take for you to go back to the lake and kind of feel at peace? 

Alyse: I think, oh, that's a great question. I've never, I've never been asked that. And you know, what's funny is, um, up until about a year ago, my mom lived in Roswell.

She doesn't anymore. Um, she lives closer to me now, but I would have to drive by the lake all the time. And Um, my kids would be like, can we go to Lake Lanier Islands? Cause they've heard, I said, absolutely not. We cannot, we can never go there. That's 

Elizabeth: wow. So you wouldn't even go to that's like the, the islands?

It's like an amusement park. They've got like a swimming pool and they've got like a water park. You wouldn't even go there? 

Alyse: No, I think I would walk the site again. I do. I, as I get older and I appreciate life in a different way. Right. When I was young and I got saved, there was no, I was just like, okay, whatever, you know, whoever saved me, whatever saved me.

I do feel like needs a thank you. You know, um, I would love to walk the site again where that happened. [00:21:00]

Elizabeth: I've never, you said it was at a campsite. Do you remember what campsite? I'm just curious. 

Alyse: I wrote it down because I have, we've never been back. My parents, they, we went back that next day, but never again, my, Mom was so traumatized.

My dad, he still won't talk about what happened. Um, I asked him like, when I made the tick tock, I asked him because someone had asked me some questions that I didn't know the answers to. Cause I was four. I don't remember everything. And he was like, I don't, I can't talk about it. I blocked it all out. Um, It was War Hill Park.

It would be kind of cool to go back and do like, uh, I'm kind of like into small ceremonies. 

Elizabeth: Erica. It's like almost too much for me. War Hill Park is right by Highway 53. It's right by the Dawsonville, the bridge where she died. It's right there. It's right by Highway 53. It's just north of Highway 53.[00:22:00]

Erica: Oh my god, 

Alyse: but you asked what would it take for me to go back? I think i'm at peace enough that I could go Back, I would love to say thank you to The person that saved me, 

Erica: you know, I'm, I'm a big kind of like ceremony person. Like I like to do little things for myself. I've always done that. Beth is still freaking out right now, but I mean, yeah, if there was something that you could do, you know, just personally for yourself, like alone, I bet that would feel really nice.

I like to do things like that too. So that's crazy. But I mean, that's amazing. But. She literally intercepted this whole thing. 

Elizabeth: Well, here's the thing about Lake Lanier, Alyse, is that you know that it's huge. It covers five counties. There's parks. There's dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of parks. And so you said Warhill Park.

I just typed it in and it's literally right next [00:23:00] to the Highway 53 bridge. And that's where she died. I mean, I just think it's sick. I, I find it amazing. And it just kind of validates your story even more. It really does. It really does. Cause you were four years old. You don't know what park you're at when you're four.

And so you, you know, you had to get, you would have no idea. Yeah. You had to get this information from your parents. So, I mean, I just, I just think it's fascinating and I love it quite frankly. I really do. I love it. And I love that you said that you would be willing to go back now and just, you know, because it was such a, I mean, that's a huge thing in somebody's life.

So to go back and revisit that, I'm sure it would be difficult, but I think it's nice that you're willing to do that. I think you're an amazing person. Just like. He grew up and he had six daughters and like, I just, I, I'm still stuck on that one. Yeah, I know. I'm still stuck on that one, but like, you know, and then he lived a really great [00:24:00] life, you know?

So I think, I think that's great. Erica's, Erica gets haunted all the time with her tech issues. 

Erica: Uh, one moment please. 

Elizabeth: Every single time that she and I talk about spirits on Lake Lanier, like specific ones, her, her lights go out, her microphone turns off, every, every single time. It's not even funny anymore.

We don't even. I just, I just, I literally just edit that part out. Cause it's like, it's so mundane at this point. Like, well, we're talking about Lanier, like 

Erica: I live. Um, so I live in Alexandria, Virginia, and it's a very old apartment building. And I'm kind of like half in the basement, half. You know, so I, I don't know.

It's not like creepy here. I don't ever get scared, but, um, yeah, I don't know. Like my stuff is always messing up. 

Alyse: Is it, do you think it's haunted? 

Erica: You know, to [00:25:00] be honest, we really not 

Erica: I just have not gotten any kind of like vibes, you know, I don't even get like a feeling like there's nothing 

Elizabeth: I know like I'm imprinting on you.

I want your apartment to be haunted. Like I really want it. 

Erica: Don't do this to me. 

Elizabeth: Well, Alyse, is there anything else that you might want to share? 

Alyse: Um, oh, you know what I did not mention? The man that pulled me out, I forgot about this, and this is a pivotal part, um, he was actually paralyzed, and he had had a car roll over his legs.

And he was on a walker. They said he would never run again. So I don't know if it was adrenaline that kicked in, but it was all very supernatural. Like we went back to the site the next day because my mom, she's a super compassionate person. The best woman, in my opinion, I'm biased, but ever, she said like, we can't let all of these people who helped you and who witnessed this, [00:26:00] cause they were all camping there.

They were still going to be there. Like we can't let them End on like, they don't know what happened to you. Like you should have died, right? Yeah. Yeah. We have to go back and I love that. So, yeah, so we went back the next day and like I said, that's the only time we've ever been back is the, that next day we went back and we thanked the people and my mom gave them flowers and everything.

And, um, the man, he was just. He was in like this camping chair and he had a walker with him and he was just crying to my mom, like saying like, they never said I would walk. Like they said, I would never walk again. The doctor said I would never walk again. Like I'm, he's like, I'm really sore, but I'm just shocked.

I could walk again. So there is something very supernatural about Lake Lanier and I will forever die on that Hill. That is crazy. Yeah, and I can't believe I forgot that part. Out of everything. I was like, yeah, so he, I have his name written I have the people's names written down which is kind of crazy so like, the man that [00:27:00] um, saved me I believe his name was David and then the pastor, the guy that grabbed him, his name was James but I've never been able to find them since.

And I have looked for them. I think they've passed. Unfortunately, they were older. I was four. This was 30 years ago. My mom still, which I think is so wild. Um, she carries around the sheet of paper that they wrote their names on and their phone numbers in her wallet. And she's had it in her wallet for 30 years.

So after I made the Tik Tok and it went kind of viral, right? Yeah. People were asking me some questions that I couldn't, I didn't know the answers to because. Yeah. All I know is what I experienced that day, not the people's names or this or that. I mean, I called her and she said, at least like I have the piece of paper in my wallet.

And I'm like, what piece of paper? And she just pulled it out and it was their names. And I looked them up. Um, I do believe the man that was, that had been crushed by the car, his legs, and he could barely walk and had the Walker at the campground. [00:28:00] I believe he's unfortunately passed at this point, but I don't know about the pastor who helped him.

Erica: Okay, your mom sounds like the sweetest human being. I know, 

Elizabeth: we love your mother. 

Alyse: She is like, she is a national treasure. I I just love her. She's the best person and an amazing example of how you should be. 

Erica: In the midst of your child almost dying, the fact that she thought about these campers need closure and let's go back like the next day.

That's so, yeah, that's really thoughtful. 

Alyse: Yeah. She's a really thoughtful person. And we did go to the church that that guy was a pastor at, but he wasn't there. So she just like wrote a note and left some flowers for him 

Erica:  Wow. That's so sweet. And I 

Alyse: remember going into the church and being like, why are we here?

Like I'm four, so I don't really even understand the situation. 

Elizabeth: Wow. I'm sure that was just a, uh, such a, like a pivotal. Uh, point that, because you were so young, but you still [00:29:00] remember it. So it must have shaped your life so much. I would imagine. 

Erica: What I really like is we've done so many stories that are so negative about Lake Lanier.

And this is something that's just so positive. Like just because something is haunted doesn't necessarily mean that it's evil and coming from a bad place.  

Elizabeth: We've said that before. Like if you sense a spirit there, It's that doesn't mean that it's there to do you harm. Like, 

Elizabeth: you know, but it's to hear like something positive.

Erica: It is. It is nice. I think when people have negative experiences, they tend to talk about it more. So you sharing your very positive experience, like I'm still alive. And now I have six daughters. 

Elizabeth: Yeah, 

Alyse: I think there's a duality with Lakelanier, right? I think there's good and bad. Yeah. Not every experience is bad, but that's what's talked about more.

Elizabeth: It's, yeah, it's easy to dwell on the negative, but I mean, and the negative is there for a good reason, I mean, you [00:30:00] know, obviously it's, it's there for a good reason, but I think we can, whether or not you believe in spirits or hauntings, like, you can always just use the narratives, the history and the narratives from the past to do better in the future, instead of just pretending like the history doesn't exist.

I think that's, yeah. I think, I don't think that's a good idea. Just in general. 

Erica: Well, thanks for sharing. 

Elizabeth: Just thank you so much for coming on and like taking time out of your day to do this. It was so nice of you. And you're so much fun to talk to. 

Alyse: Thank you for having me. I feel honored. 

Elizabeth: This is just our silly little podcast.

 Literally. We just, you know, people listen to us. I know me neither. Let's just get the microphones and like start talking about like linear.  

Alyse: There's a lot to talk about

Elizabeth: It's a lot while for sure. Do you make it through your bottle of wine or how far did you get? 

Erica: I've only had one glass.

Elizabeth: I only had one glass too. She's [00:31:00] drinking wine out of a straw. She's our, she's our spirit animal. 

Alyse: Yeah. I don't like a cup. Like, I don't like a cup that I have to tilt. N

Erica:  I do a coffee mug and I put some ice in it because I'm a white wine drinker. Sure. Yeah. 

Alyse: However it goes easier.

Elizabeth: Yeah. Now you can finish your bottle of wine and like, just tell your, tell your husband that you're not quite done yet. And then just stay in the room by yourself.

Thank  you to our guest today, Alyse. You can find her on TikTok at Alyse on TikTok. And one more thank you to our other guests, Zach and Tina. Join us next time on Spirits Uncorked.